organization can get out of it. it is in the ideal by any stretch of the imagination. but listen, this is a war on religious liberty. the constitution absolutely protects our first amendment religious liberty fundamental freedom as americans and the government must be able to prove a few things if they re going to violate that constitutionally protected right. they should be able to prove this is the least-restrict tiff means. they can not do so in that. they also have to prove they have a compelling reason to do that. they can not prove that in either of those situations. gregg: well, i think it is a fascinating intellectual argument and constitutional question that may work its all the way to the supreme court. but a great many catholics in america are looking now to the courts for a solution and thank you very much for your thoughts, jean moynihan. thanks for having me. martha: her disappearance last fall set off a media frenzy and now there is new