several young blacks at that service said they had never been in a a a church before until thy heard kanye west, and so i think he has a very important role to play in challenging the race grievance industry that is wreaking havoc in the black community, and he s calling blacks to be self responsible, as dr. king said, to reach down into your soul and sign your own emancipation proclamation and not wait for white people to liberate you, and so his message is really resonating well in the community and like i said, it s a brash stomach breath of fresh air for those of us who have been preaching for decades that the salvation of black america has to come internally and not externally. tucker: so you said we made a mistake in calling his album is lord, jesus is king of course. but this christian evangelism you think is sincere, bottom line, in his case?