this is what s happening here but it s very important to note that we have thunder storms that were present across the last point of contact with our current missing plane. our air asia flight that we re discussing at the moment and thunder storm cloud tops were roughly at 52,000 feet. that s very well above the freezing line in the atmosphere. we re talking about 0 degrees celsius, 32 degrees fahrenheit. that means any cloud particles above that freezing line were in the form of ice. so we could very well see a very similar situation that took place here with what we saw with air france back in june of 2009. this is all speculative but definitely something to consider. this is the point of last contact we ve cycled it on our satellite imagery. here is where the plane took off. it was headed toward singapore and you can just see the convective thunder storms blanketing the java sea and obviously, this area prone to