mccarthy. so they re all very closely watching how this deal shapes up. we know several of them didn t even buy that x date set by janet yellen, of course we know that date has moved up a little bit. extending the time that these negotiators have to complete their homework. but all of this is significant progress. if they reach this deal tonight, if members accepted, that means we can have a vote as soon as tuesday. because remember, mccarthy promised 72 hours to read this bill. which he told us earlier will be something in the ballpark of 200 pages. not 1000 plus. all right, nbc s julie tsirkin, thank you for your time tonight. and keeping us up to date on what s happening. let s bring back to the conversation democratic congresswoman, judy chu, and congressman, ted lieu. both representing california. i asked julie there about any grumblings from democrats or republicans as this deal is beginning to seep out. are you concerned about what could potentially be in this deal, congressma
tiktok. it is at alicia on msnbc. all those platforms. i will see you back here tomorrow. you know the deal, six vmas turn, three p empathetic for american voices. now, i handed over to michael steele. hello michael. hey alicia, how are you. good to see you. there has been breaking news throughout this show. i think you are going to be the one who actually gets the details of what happened on that phone call. i thought julie tsirkin was gonna run down the hall and put a cup to the door to hear what was happening. i got the cup, i m ready to listen in. it s good to see you alicia. i love it, thanks michael. good evening, welcome to ayman. tonight, live up to the minute developments on the debt limit negotiations. plus, i ll speak with democrats judy chu and ted lieu and get their reactions to the chaos on capitol hill. then, getting closer, new indications that special counsel jack smith s investigation into donald trump s handling of classified documents, it s almost
by what he has done. and that he just sort of was showing off to people who weren t going to hurt the country as a result of getting it. but we can t know that right now. jill, i jill wine-banks, former congresswoman, donna edwards. ruth ben-ghiat, please stick around. i before we go to break, there s breaking news on the debt limit negotiations. house republican leadership has just notified members that they will be holding at least one conference call tonight to brief members on an emerging deal. this comes after president biden and speaker mccarthy spoke earlier tonight. that we do not know whether this signifies whether an agreement has been reached or not. speaker mccarthy told nbc news earlier in the day that should a deal be struck, members would learn about it first. we will bring you more information from both sides, on all sides, on all the calls that happen, as soon as we get it. we ll be right back after this. ter this
the white house that the republicans are not going to have the votes that they need to pass this deal. so they re going to require democratic votes. you are not going to be able to compromise on a value and expect democrat votes. the white house knew that. they were negotiating from a position of strength. they understood that in order to get any democratic votes, they are going to have to have a deal that democrats can actually vote for. so we look forward to seeing these details. i know that the white house was very cognizant that they could not accommodate most of the republicans demands. because then you have no democrats voting for the deal. congressman lieu, and congresswoman chu, standby for a moment. let s go live to nbc news capitol hill correspondent, julie tsirkin. julie, what can you tell us about this tentative agreement between republican leadership and the white house. a breaking moment on the debt limit conversation. it s one we ve been waiting for all day, all week
for the last several weeks. we are told, just in the last few minutes, that the white house and republican negotiators did reach a deal in principle. an agreement in principle, i say that carefully, because remember, republicans want a chance to sell their members. which we are told they are going to do in under an hour. at 9:30 tonight. and all member call will be held where republican leadership will start to begin to see how many members they can get on board for this agreement. if they can sell it to enough of their membership, the event supported at the end, which we expect they will. according to republicans. so look, all of this right now comes down to what s actually in this deal, of course. we don t have the exact contours figured out. but the fact that this agreement was struck, we are told, during that phone conversation between the president and between the speaker that happened earlier in the evening, is significant. patrick mchenry, a close ally of speaker mccarthy had to