he gave an interview to a german journalist in 2010, he said under some circumstances the pope would have the right and the duty to resign. he made two pilgrimages to the last pope who resigned voluntarily. you could kind of see it coming. when it got there, it was still a stunner. and, chris, it is it is old school, watching this newly built chimney, but incredibly exciting, not only for all those 5,600 media personnel covering it and the thousands assembled in peters square. don t know if there is anything like it left. the vatican has a great sense of theater and certainly it is that. they couldn t have a more beautiful setting than st. peter s square, but it is the contrast. people are watching liquid crystal displays, huge screens, the most modern technology and on the screen, a chimney that they just stick in the roof of the sistine chapel, put a couple of wires on it and they have