i ask you one, if you have a sense of what number can be trusted and we heard 6 thoi thou 6,000 to 8,000. and you can t spin or put a shine on but that kind of those numbers about the loss of sort of young russian lives. i wond you are your thoughts on that. give us a sense of the impact on russia. i think the department knows. we heard that from kirby. when i think my general sense is they probably lost 10% of the assault forces have been killed or wounded. they lost a considerable amount of armor. and seemingly incompetently led russian forces.