the high winds are a major problem. miguel marquez has more on this from santa barbara. reporter: this thomas fire is the fire that will not quit. i want to show you what s happening in the hills. we are going turn the light off to get a better sense of what s going on. the fire is burning in the foothills. firefighters have been working this area for over a week. the winds were not cooperating at first. they were blowing it toward the ocean. the santa ana winds were blowing toward the ocean, blowing the fire along with it. then they had a let up during the week and were able to light backfires and get rid of the undergrowth. then the santa ana winds came back. that s what they are dealing with now. winds topping out at 20-30 miles per hour. i will tell you, we were up in those hills earlier, not that
high, they are very steep and you have ravines, the winds can w whip 30-40 miles per hour. right now, no winds what so ever. if they can make it through tonight and through the winds, they believe they will be able to get on top of this thomas fire and finally put it out. miguel marquez, cnn, santa barbara, california. let s tap into this. ivan is with us. is there good news? rainfall is what they need. i think the winds will come down in the next few days. something. at least the spread won t continue. we had a big issue because the winds came through santa barbara. let s talk about the new normal. that s what the governor called it. get used to it with climate change. look at the 1980s. this is the average as far as