border or as many as you can, and move south korean troops over the dmz. that s all that s obviously a bad one. it has huge casualty counts. but they re real options and all of the things you see happening with our defense department is preparation for a real military exercise. and i think i know why they re doing that. they re sending a very clear signal to kim jong-un, listen, this is for real. and hopefully it does it goes into the last one, which is we have few diplomatic things left. we re willing to do those. but you re going to have to cooperate. i think they re trying to set the table for a stronger and a better negotiated diplomatic solution at the end of the day. theoretically, any of the military options you just described would set off not only the deaths of innocent people in north korea, but north korea would fire into south korea at the very least, perhaps even japan. we re talking theoretically, thousands of innocent people killed, if the military if
i m concerned because this is not a game. this is for real. you know, having dealt with issues in north korea, having dealt with issues in other countries throughout the world, i know when there is a situation that could get out of control. and what i m sensing here is a situation that could get out of control. and that concerns me because there aren t any good alternatives here. if we, in fact, wind up having to take action here, that action could result in some terrible consequence that could involve south korea and the loss of literally00 of lives. so, this is a serious situation. i would appreciate it if those in responsible positions would take it seriously. and you say this is the most
what do you make of the chaos in the white house? have you ever seen anything like this? never. never. and from my point of view the worst of it is that it s producing constant distractions from the big tasks that we have before us. and of course, the biggest of all is solving the climate crisis. look, this is for real. this is for real. were we not to take a hold of it and solve it, the consequences would be too catastrophic to even imagine. you were a politician for many, many years. it feels like american politics is broken. its a he so polarized, but also so dysfunctional. nothing gets done. when you look at it and you think about your time in american politics, what do you think has happened? well, i think that our democracy has been hacked by big money long before putin hacked
never. and from my point of view, the worst of it is that it s producing constant distractions from the big tasks that we have before us. and of course the biggest of all is solving the climate crisis. look, this is for real. this is for real. were we not to take a hold of it and solve it, the consequences would be too catastrophic to even imagine. you were a politician for many, many years. it feels like american politics is broken. it s so polarized, but also so dysfunctional. nothing gets done. when you look at it, you think about your time in american politics, what do you think has happened? i think our democracy has been hacked by big money, long before putin hacked our democracy. and i think the change is connected to a dramatic
this is day 181. and brian, we get numb to the daily shocks. you were talking just a few minutes ago about repealing the laws of civics. icivics. i think sometimes we forget that the trump show is not something to binge watch and it s not entertainment. it s our government. this is for real. so it s not normal for the president of the united states to sign off on a story that his son is going to tell to make up for a meeting he probably shouldn t have taken. it s not normal for the president to hold a cabinet meeting that consists of, as the viewers saw here, the staff taking turns to gush over him. it s not normal for the president to undermine the west wing staff by asking people who wander in, what s their opinion of various people who might replace his chief of staff? it s not normal for the president of the united states to make a deal with the russian