today a 23-year-old extremist from oklahoma has been arraigned from trying to blow up a bank in new york city to follow in tim think mcveigh s footsteps. in 2012 a knee neo-nazi, in wisconsin, shot and killed six people in the trump l. in 2015 another white supremacist shot and killed nine people, shot and wounded three others at an landmark afric african-american church in south carolina. he said his motive was they were hoping to start a race war. they re all hoping to start a race war. they re always trying to do that. this is a persistent infection in white american culture and it can be quite fatal. and what i ve learned over the course of my 44 years is that this infection in modern american white culture doesn t
built in 1944 for $60 million it s designed to cut criminals off from the rest of the world and each other. if he is assigned to the super max, he is no threat to anyone period. the super max is designed to stop those threats. but this person doesn t even have the skill sets to be like the other inmates there. to communicate outside, no one is following him. cameras aren t allowed in. human contact hardly exists. when you re looking at people like the 1993 world trade bomber tim think mcveigh was there, nichols is still there, the shoe bomber the uni bomber many isolated 23 hours a day, seven day as week behind bars and sliding steel doors, the prison encircled by a dozen gun tourers and guards armed with tear gas and .9 millimeter shot guns.
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and 168 people were murdered. so what is he doing today? michael fortier is a free man. he didn t think mcveigh would actually carry out the plan, agreed a plea bargain testifying before mcveigh and nichols. served ten years in prison and released almost a deck cod ago. he has a new identity and new home because he s in the federal witness protection plan. he occasionally calls his lawyer. can you tell us where he s living, what his name is? no. reporter: but still married, to the same woman. yes. reporter: has children? yes. reporter: how many children? two. reporter: does he live a normal life? no. he ll never be able to live a normal life. reporter: in witness protection, given a new identity. presumably his neighbors don t know anything about his background? i probably can t comment on that. reporter: when you say he s not living a normal life what do
you had a number of anti-government groups that were taking shape arming themselves, building compounds throughout the country, establishing their own laws, really setting themselves apart from mainstream cities and locations on purpose and believing then that not only people of other faiths or ethnicities or nationalalities were the enemy, but that the united states government was the biggest enemy. the question that reoccurs was what was the connection between tim mcveigh and elohim city. tim mcveigh said he never went there. there are people, however, who claim to have seen mcveigh at elohim city, and probably the strongest evidence that he was there is a ticket he received from an arkansas highway patrolman about four miles into arkansas from oklahoma on the road that takes you straight to elohim city. if he wasn t there, where was he? attorney general think mcveigh made some calls to elohim city. he drove near the area we know, but beyond that, any connection to elohim city or