politicians and perhaps particularly that period during the pandemic, did you feel there was as it were a deficit in their understanding of the granular way in which the nhs works? i the granular way in which the nhs works? ~ ,. , ., , , works? i think her description seems to be accurate works? i think her description seems to be accurate regarding works? i think her description seems to be accurate regarding their - to be accurate regarding their cabinet office. the extent to which number ten has health expertise is to some extent a function of how the prime minister of the day chooses to staff the number ten policy unit. during the pandemic itself i think there is truth in what she says. but to some extent, as long as that doesn t lead to ill informed second guessing the decisions that people in the nhs are actually trying to take, that need not in itself be a problem. fine trying to take, that need not in itself be a problem. itself be a problem. one can certainly