texas as i do, often, and visit with any of the millions of people getting these cancellation notices. you talk to mothers who have kids with diabetes, suddenly lost health care, they re scared and it s all caused by congress, this thing isn t working. we need to start over. what could fix it now? i mean, these plans to make people keep insurance, maybe that can help. people not get cancelled if they haven t been yet. but 5 million people have been cancelled? the bills of the white house, of the democrats are talking about are not going to make a difference to 5 million people that lost their health care already. not going to make a difference to 90 plus million who have employer provided health care. the only way to stop the problems is to admit this idea was fundamentally
and duly foot noting. senator rand paul is foot noting his speeches but does it really matter. sahil kapur, michael tomasky and zerlina maxwell. gang, it s good to have you here. michael, i want to start with you because we had senator ted cruz giving his opinion on why he thinks president bill clinton is coming out swinging with these comments from yesterday. take a listen. that was certainly revealing, and it suggests perhaps that hillary clinton is looking to run away from president obama and run away from obama care. and that ought to be a signal to democrats, this thing isn t working. all right. so is that the line of thinking when the president has been out, president clinton that is, out front in support of the aca and now it seems a bit fair weather? run away is probably a little bit overstated, as is sometimes senator cruz s habit, but look,
take it away. that is what the left is counting on, they can say this is going badly but we have some people already enrolling already dependent on it. now we have to go to single-payer in order to try to make it work for at least them. which case you really do have a fundamental transformation of the health care system. jon: i haven t checked on numbers from alaska but 48 hours ago when i was on air, two people in alaska signed up for obamacare. alaska, maybe you have really steamrolled ahead with your enrollment but it wouldn t seem would be all that hard to undo, call the two folks in alaska, you know what, this thing isn t working. so far, jon. we know with government programs especially the one where the left is so invested in this, this is remaking of 1/6 of the economy and so important to them. this is the crown jewel of the welfare state. they will not let it go. they will make sure is works in some form. if it is not, getting us to single-payer. jon: the president says these
do you feel like you owe your party an apology? listen, you have people who believed in you. they believed that you were going to somehow be able to defund obama care. they believed in the strategy of shutdown might have a chance. they followed you into a ditch. and now there s obviously no chance that obama care is going to be defunded, and we re on the brink of a horrific default. do you think that in the reflection of your own heart you might say you know what, i m a new kid here. i think i owe you guys an apology. you know, van, i know you desperately want to change the topic from obama care. and it is striking that on the default? the destruction of the world economy? van, let me answer your question. listen. democrats in this town do not want to discuss obama care. why? because it isn t working. we saw this week president obama s approval ratings are at 37%. the lowest it has ever been. the wall street journal poll just came out. and democrats have the lowest support am
republicans are experiencing much higher disapproval than democrats. well first of all, everyone knows that on a government shutdown in a debate like this that the party that believes in a smaller government, more efficient government, is the one that s typically going to get blamed. i think that s fair. really? i think that s the reason that i think the president whose ratings have been going down consistently really was hoping that something like this would happen. you think president obama was hoping the shutdown? i think this. i think that everyone knew, okay, over the last several months with the syria conflict and the economy and everything that we were seeing, the jobs numbers, it s been a difficult several months for the president. and so therefore, if we re able to come to an impasse that we know that the republicans are going to get blamed for, then why but he didn t actively do this. the republicans said, we want to try and defund obama care. that wasn t his id