to spend a lot time figuring out what this thing does. we re just now starting to learn they umaybe wrote it so hastily that they screwed up some of their favorite tax exemptions and their donor are going to be angry. i don t think this is going to go away once the president signs it. i think it becomes bigger. the chamber of commerce had a fit that the alternative minimum tax for corporations is still in the bill. but things happen at two income the morning thanks for joining me. still ahead, how the trump administration is laying the groundwork to discredit or even remove special counsel robert mueller. new details from inside the investigation ahead. plus reince watch in tonight s thing 1, thing 2, next. coaching means making tough choices.
handcuffs at the courthouse. because this is the president, no one can believe a president would actually behave this way because we ve never since nixon, anyway, seen a president behave this way. when you take that out of the equation and just look at the fact pattern, this is a pretty clear and simple obstruction of justice case. the only thing he has going for him now is there is this open question about whether he can be indicted or not or whether it has to be left to congress where of course there is still a republican majority. but again, i think the more important case here is the conspiracy. the first order case. you think they re building a very strong conspiracy case. oh, most definitely. it goes back to april of 2016 when papadopoulos learns of the stolen dnc e-mails. it goes to june 4th when goldstone is writing about the important dirty dirt they have on hillary clinton. it goes into the june 9th meeting, and then out into july where these e-mails are disseminated
roger stone. then all of the wikileaks. contact action we now have. there is a major conspiracy. one, to either violate the federal computer hacking law, the computer fraud and abuse act, or there was a quid pro quo for dropping sanctions in return for help on the election. okay. that is a theory of the case. this is the thing. that quid pro quo he is sort of a speculative question, although i think plausible theory. here is the thing, matt. if you take a step back, russia criminally intervened to help donald trump win the election. criminal sabotage. the newly elected president, the sitting president, barack obama then punished them with sanction and the trump team coordinated secretly with russia to mitigate the effect of that punishment and then lied about it. those are the facts we already know. yeah, those are the facts we already know, as well as the fact that the president publicly encouraged the russians to hack and release hillary clinton s e-mail. at some point there
i don t think they ve really been very secretive about this. i ve been writing about it for weeks. all republicans believe in something called starve the beast. they want to slash what are called entitlement programs which i are mostly social security and medicare, and they don t think they can get the political support to do it unless they have a deficit. right. that is so large that they have no choice. and this has been obvious for a long time. this is just part one of a two-step process. and i think they re kind of foolish to be giving away the game before this thing is locked up. but i m glad to hear them saying these things. but i knew it was coming. that s a great point that bruce is making. the deficits are the point. because what the deficits do is if you cut taxes like george w. bush did twice in his first term, like they re doing now, you then create a pressure you can use against a possible democratic successor if they want to do anything on the spending side.
it. i think it becomes bigger. the chamber of commerce had a fit that the alternative minimum tax for corporations is still in the bill. but things happen at two income the morning thanks for joining me. still ahead, how the trump administration is laying the groundwork to discredit or even remove special counsel robert mueller. new details from inside the investigation ahead. plus reince watch in tonight s thing 1, thing 2, next. some air fresheners are so overwhelming, they can.