occurred, as you know, he tried run. he tried go to mexico and steal that boat in san diego. that didn t work that was probably plan a. plan b is he had a friend whose family had a cabin up in big bear. then his axle broke on his vehicle. that was plan b. that didn t work out too well. what we don t know, bill, is this couple, thi women that he tied up, he took their you know, he was in their house in this cabin, we don t know how long he has been there has it been since last thursday or was he out in the woods then came and took it? nevertheless he didn t take that vehicle. he apparently hijacked another vehicle on the road. he takes this vehicle and then there is a report, you know, a 911 call says guy stolen car, car vakd gentleman. we think it s this guy christopher dorner. looks like him. that s when fish and game engagements and that s when they get on the radio. bill: that s when all hell breaks lose. what happened to the people that he carjacked? what did he do to them? did