turning up the pressure on pat cipollone to testify after hutchinson revealed that cipollone was worried that he and trump s entire team would face a litany of criminal charges if trump went to the capitol on january 6th. hutchinson said the president knew his supporters were armed and trying to join them. there are also new questions, though, about the former white house aide s claims that trump lunged for the steering wheel of his presidential suv when secret service agents told him he couldn t go to the capitol. now the secret service tells the committee that agents are willing to dispute that story under oath. cnn s ryan nobles is on capitol hill. ryan, big day for the committee. do we know what s next? reporter: well, there s no doubt, victor, and alson that the committee seems to be razor focused on pat cipollone the former white house counsel and his role in all of this. to this point he s only had very base level conversations with the committee. he has not had an
it happens in congressional proceedings too, and audiences and juries judge witnesses harshly when they have these sort of credibility slipups. that said, victor, it s very important to note that it doesn t negate the hour and 55 minutes of other testimony she gave, many of it much of it quite compelling and quite persuasive, and on top of that, what is it eight hours of testimony prior to that that the committee had put on, and so i think a lot of folks are fixating on the fact that there is a dispute here that the committee can clear up, and there s a dispute over this fact, but it doesn t you know, it doesn t negate everything. and the other point is that she was testifying fruitfully as far as truthfully as far as we can tell as to what she heard. there s a dispute as to what she was relaying, but it was still honest sworn testimony, so again, it s the kind of thing that can be cleared up pretty easily by putting those other witnesses on. what s your thought on why the comm