back and forth a little bit, and i suggest different procedures how we might be able to do it, and then the answer will be, well, it can t get 60 votes in the senate or this can t happen or that can t happen, and i would remind the speaker or chairman waxman in the past under similar circumstances we ve put abortion funding in reconciliation bills, and sometimes it passes, sometimes it doesn t. i would rather try to try to work with the senate to get something done, but, you know, just to say simply it can t be done, that s not good enough for me. i d rather try and fail than not have tried at all to try to strike out this abortion language they have in this bill. megyn: we played on this show last friday and again monday an interview you gave to a radio station in which you relayed a conversation you had with henry waxman, and you said in that radio interview that he had told
administration s message for a while. now the president comes on. does this put a period at the end of that argument? i don t know that it puts an end to the discussion. it makes it more difficult. but i think these people these are not new kinds of politicians, they are old kinds of politicians. and when it serves their purpose to bash fox news, they will. but you hit on something interesting and important. it will make it more difficult because somebody will then raise their hand in the press room at the white house and say but you went on fox news. how could you bash them now? they will will if they have to. that s my educated guess. they will if they have to. and if they have to come on again sometime in the future they will do that, too. these are pragmatic people. these people just want to get this thing through congress and they will do it, their words by any means necessary. and coming on fox news is one of
responsible for posting the survey on its web site later removed it. it s not a scientific poll, it s a survey, but does it bear any truth in your experience. well, you know, the new england journal, first of all, as you said, it was done by a recruiting firm. they don t give any information what the denominator is, how many physicians did they ask, from where? and i tried to call them to get that information, oops, no response. i left a message. so, you know, i have to go, what is this? new england journal last year did do a survey of members of the ama. now, that s only about 20% are physicians and members, but they took 6,000 physicians, ones who are no longer in the training, and many their poll in their poll 62.9% are in favor of a both private and public option. it drops down to only 27% when it s a private option only. so that is, to me, a more
there s a new rumor every ten seconds, so we ll see what happens here. megyn: what do you make of the slaughter proposal in the house to get the senate bill, which is controversial, passed? they won t actually vote on it, they will just an up or down vote, they ll just deem it passed to get around having their members say they voted for it. yeah. that s one of three options they ve outlined, it s my understanding the leadership has not finalized that option, but either way i still believe they have to have a rule vote to even bring up the slaughter solution, if you will. so the rule vote could be more interesting than the vote on health care itself. they still have not agreed on the policy, i ve been in the caucuses, each day we have a mandatory caucus on health care. they re keeping members informed, but no procedure has yet been declared. the slaughter, the deemed pass, you see that type of legislation all the time especially when you re trying to raise the debt
that they re just not to gonna l off. megyn: do you what do you think is going to happen this week, congressman stupak? there s all sorts of buzz about having a vote on saturday, and robert gibbs says this thing will be the law of the land including the abortion language you don t like by sunday. do you think that s realistic? no. no, even if we voted on saturday, they couldn t even roll the bill in time to get it to the president for his signature. it s going to take at least a day or two to do that. plus we re not done with this deal. the reason why the cbo keeps going back is they re looking at different angles. remember, i said members had concerns and what if we did this, what would that cost? if it s a solid idea, leaders keep going back and say, well, let s get a score at it, see how it fits because they re trying to keep it at this 900 billion mark over a ten-year period. latest rumor we ve heard is it won t be until tomorrow, so we re going to go home, come back on monday.