and another loss for the trump movement sweeping across the state. thanks to all of you for getting up way too early with us on this wednesday morning a jammed back morning joe starts now. on a basis that every single pundit and legal analyst said there is no case. 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in the first degree. he knew there was no case. it was a felony to falsify business records with intent to defraud. everybody said this is not really an indictment, there s nothing here. these are felony crimes in new york city state. my lawyers said there s nothing here. the defendant repeatedly made false statements. they re not not saying what you did. he always caused others to make false statements. charging a former president of the united states for the first time in history. everyone stands equal before the law. donald trump and manhattan district attorney, alvin bragg, held two very different news conferences following yester
consider this question the answer usually is guilty verdict. whatever happens next, mr. trump can t argue that he s being single out for unprecedented theory of prosecution. just pulling out to 20,000 feet, katherine, you know, you look at the core of this case, it s a case, it s a crime, there are potential multiple crimes here that have been committed and this former president was arraigned and it was the crimes, correct me if i am wrong, to influence the outcome of the 2016 election, and if all the cases bear out against him he ll have the beginning of his presidency and the end of his presidency with legal cases against him accusing him of trying to influence or change the outcome of an election
when he basically took an investigation about whether or not the russians tried to interfere with the 2016 election and made that investigation, essentially, all about him and his desire and attempts to obstruct that investigation. there was a several-hundred page report issues by special counsel robert mueller and one half was devoted to trump s efforts to derail the investigation he is perfectly capable of committing crimes, felonies, to avoid nothing, which was probably what he had done before he started trying to obstruct the mueller investigation. he certainly he s willing to try to commit crimes to avoid being convicted of a misdemeanor. it s just that he just he doesn t know when to stop. and speaking of not knowing when to stop john heileman i thought it was fascinating
here i d rate it incomplete they ll get a more detailed of itemization of charges yesterday no cameras in the courtroom and there was an indictment that was a bit opaqued, not a big day for transparency but a big day for equal justice under the law. dave, we know the judge that the next hearing will be december, proposed trial start date is january. trump s team want to push it back deep into 2024 as donald trump is running for president two questions, what time line could we be looking at and then secondly, a lot of chatter yesterday even if he were to be convicted wouldn t serve any prison time, do you agree with that or not well, each count can get up
to four years in state prison. i don t know what he scores on new york law he s more likely to face prison time based on the federal charges which i think are forthcoming in mar-a-lago documents and january 6th. 4 out of 4 this is not a weak case, as far as the time line it s in trump s benefit to push this out as far as possible. the next hearing he ll appear at is in december this is going to taint the pool of goodwill of voters i think by that point by december, a month from now, a lot of this is going to be washed away. i think fulton is going to come next, followed by jack smith and merrick garland on the strongest cases of all it s not going to be the last one.