that came out in that. when you ve been wrongly accused of something, it makes you emotional. no doubt about that. i don t think the emotion he showed here is diminishes his credibility one bit. it enhances it. this is the way a person who is likely to reacted to something who never experienced this before, who has never experienceit before and this devastating. martha: there s no doubt. it was like when i interviewed him, there was a cork in him. feels like the cork got pulled out. there s no doubt that he s had conversations with people at the white house and everybody who is advising him on this and told him, look, what you shared with us in private, you need to show everybody. you need to know how devastating this has been for you and your family and your pride and your sense of you remember self and your work and who you are and clearly he is hitting that mark. it s going to be interesting to see how it plays at home. we only know how it matters with a certain number of people
democrats depends on it. isn t this much more exciting than listening to president obama. the stakes really are higher. the consequences of any of us sitting on the sidelines are more dire. i watched it, but i fell asleep. [ laughter ] i found he s very good. very good for sleeping. it did not start with donald trump. he is a symptom, not the cause. if there s one thing we learned in the 2016 race is that a lot of established traditional politicians didn t know how to handle the aggressive bullying, the name calling, the tactics of somebody like president donald trump. there s no doubt president obama is a smart, very shrewd political operator, but is he prepared for what possibly could be coming his way with the dirty nature of trump politics? he may not be prepared, but
trying to undermine our democracy. others have said they are really trying these tactics going into the midterm elections as well. how worried are you about meddling coming up to the midterms? there s no doubt russia is going to try and metal. but again, the government is doing more than was done under obama to stop this. almost $400 million given to the states so they can improve their computer systems. there is also a, really a great rule by the department of homeland security sharing information with the boards of elections, anything at all, is an indication meddling, the government can react to it. probably the most, the making have to do is convince russia that there is a deterrent. if they try this, there s going to be consequences. if we are just playing defense somehow or other they can get through. but if they know there s going to be a massive retaliation, thus the best way to keep from doing it. president obama is doing that. he went to vladimir putin and
decision, and the government wanted them to do it in brief phone calls when the child is so distraught and crying, the parent is crying. all we re asking for is a few days for them to come together and get pro bono counsel and the government is saying no, we want to remove these families immediately upon reunification without any time for consultation together. victoria, i read that some of these parents are signing away their right to asylum or signing away their right to be reunited with their kids, who they don t speak spanish or english, they speak indigenous languages, they re from all over central america. we re getting a tremendous amount of pressure on these parents, the emotional pressure of being separated from their child, and we re hearing that i.c.e. officers are saying, just sign the papers, get reunited with your children, and not letting them know that there is
and fair trade which has always been a republican mantra. your reaction, mr. secretary? well, look. if you talk to dairy farmers they will tell you canada has a very closed market, they would be supportive of a renegotiated nafta agreement. the concern is when this is going to happen, because it s also impacted not just canada but mexico with retaliatory tariffs assessed by mexico. we ve lost the competitive advantage we had with mexico in terms of our dairy products. our farmers are deeply concerned about markets closing. they re deeply concerned about the long term impact of these tariffs, because at the end of the day, if we lose market share to our competitors, it s very tough to get it back. so i think the hope is that indeed nafta gets renegotiated. i think there are a lot of issues yet to be determined, whether that can be done in a timely way. we ve got a new mexican administration coming into play. hopefully the pressure is now on and the expectation is building for nafta to