people, there wasn t doubt. i mean, we saw the plane go down. his name was on the passenger list. it was his plane. and so, yeah. i spoke to a the lo of people at the various memorials that have shot up around the country. i was in st. petersburg yesterday speaking to wagner fighters that were laying flowers there and lighting candles and stuff like that in memory of prigozhin and they were saying, we don t think he s dead and going to mexico and fighting the americans there. that is some of the sentiment compressed and maybe there are conspiracy theories out there but more most people now the issue has been laid to rest in the sense that there is that forensic confirmation that yevgeny prigozhin is dead and not out there somewhere in the ether up to no good. matthew chance, thank you very much. really appreciate it. and joining us with more analysis is former secretary of defense bill cohen. mr. secretary, great to see you as always. let s start with your reaction.