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were violent criminals. you are covering this earlier. there are some very bad people in this country and they should be deported. everyone agrees that if you are a violent member of ms-13 or if you commit some sort of terrible crime, you should be tossed, no matter what kind of status you have. but this guy is not that. depending on who you believe, he either committed a minor crime related to immigration laws or no crime at all. that is not at all of president obama was doing. that is what we are seeing under president trump. martha: david, what do you think? look, daca, you have to understand, is a revocable status. it s not a permanent status. forget about the immigration thing for a second. he committed a theft offense, a crime of moral turpitude, grounds to revoke the status to begin with. i got to say, his story about being singled out and deported because the immigration officers thought he looked suspicious, just doesn t ring true. it is much more likely that he visited me