anthony: i think we have to wait for the music. one moment. baskara: yeah, yeah, yeah. hey, a lot of foreigners, a lot of money. anthony: i think we re paying them not to play music. [ laughter ] baskara: yeah, right, right. anthony: so, you teach here. you were educated in the states? baskara: yes. yeah, i got my second fulbright when i was teaching as a scholar in residence at the university of california. anthony: and your subject was the nixon years during that period? baskara: yeah, after world war ii. anthony: you were also a man of the cloth, a man of faith, so the right man to talk to. we ve been largely advised that we will make people uncomfortable if we even discuss the year 1965. baskara: the year of living
dangerously. anthony: the year of living dangerously. baskara: yeah. what happened was basically the communists were accused of launching a coup against the government, and because of that there was kind of justification for killing people who were suspected of being communists. anthony: and who were they? baskara: they re just villagers. or people who, in a very vain way associated with or connected with the indonesian communist party. anthony: right. reporter: indonesia boasts one of the world s most bizarre leaders. three weeks ago the communists staged a coup. but it was sparred and the army struck back. reporter: indonesia s revolution is still fiercely on the boil. as the systematic roundup of communists goes on. reporter: with its leaders either captured or killed, the communist force collapsed. reporter: the army led a hunt for party officials, slaughtering the largest communist party outside the iron curtain. reporter: general suharto has taken advantage of
the nixon years during that period? baskara: yeah, after world war ii. anthony: you were also a man of the cloth, a man of faith, so the right man to talk to. we ve been largely advised that we will make people uncomfortable if even we even discuss the year 1965. baskara: the year of living dangerously. anthony: the year of living dangerously. baskara: yeah. what happened was basically the communists were accused of launching a coup against the government, and because of that there was kind of justification for killing people who were suspected of being communists. anthony: and who were they? baskara: they re just villagers. or people who, in a very vain way associated or connected with the indonesian communist party. anthony: right. reporter: indonesia boasts one of the world s most bizarre leaders. three weeks ago the communists staged a coup. but it was sparred and the army struck back. reporter: indonesia s revolution is still fiercely on the boil. as the system
anthony: you were also a man of the cloth, a man of faith, so the right man to talk to. we ve been largely advised that we will make people uncomfortable if even we even discuss the year 1965. baskara: the year of living dangerously. anthony: the year of living dangerously. baskara: yeah. what happened was basically the communists were accused of launching a coup against the government, and because of that there was kind of justification for killing people who were suspected of being communists. anthony: and who were they? baskara: they re just villagers. or people who, in a very vain way associated or connected with the indonesian communist party. anthony: right. reporter: indonesia boasts one of the world s most bizarre leaders. three weeks ago the communists staged a coup. but it was sparred and the army struck back. reporter: indonesia s revolution is still fiercely on the boil. as the systematic roundup of