journalistic decisions. bill: thank you for your analysis and reporting there. chris stierwalt from washington. martha. martha: he is the only person who was convicted in the terrorist attack that took down pan am flight 103 in the days before christmas in 1988 over lockerbie scotland but he got out of serving that life sentence, a decision that has outraged the families of those who were lost and a lot of other people. the situation is now straining the relationship between the u.s. and britain this is about how we fight terrorism. we cannot have a convicted terrorist be told that he had three months to live and released and sitting in the lap of luxury for up to ten years. that is not justice served and what we are trying to be able to be effective in fighting terrorism worldwide, as allies with the u.s. with the u.s. government and u.k. government, we cannot have a terrorist going free on the basis of what may have been fraught lend. martha: today the scottish politician who mad
know. bill: it s the dog days of summer and the heat is on at the white house. brand new polling numbers on the president s approval numbers. what americans are saying about this. martha: that s a couple of minutes from now. stick around for that. in the meantime, northern arizona, deadly flooding, a one a 12-year-old girl was swept away in these waters after heavy rain in flagstaff. where it is headed next, what you need to know on this hot summer day when we come back.
active in the tea party movement. it was, you know, bill, much more of a listening session, than that she organized at the tea party caucus than any caucus i have been to before and in that sense we have heard genuinely refreshing. bill: i m reading 12 house members showed up. is that the right number, in terms of dodds. seemed like there were a few more than that. but, a good start an. bill: did you expect more? you know, the fact that the caucus was just approved a day or two go, members of congress s schedule come together sometimes months in advance and i thought it was a good start. i expect michelle will see more participation, from members and, i am honored to be a small part of it. bill: fundamentally, what does it do? a caucus on capitol hill, what does it do for the movement? does it give you an added boost, a better step?
like thanksgiving every day, isn t it? you are right. martha: talk to me about, what it is like when you are out there, we were laughing before when you see the sharks we d say let s get out of here and you say, let s get closures! and, you know, do you have any fear when you are out there, this close to these huge sharks? you know, you re out there on a very little we re, in a little platform and you wonder what don t you know what can happen? you watched jaws . that is a bit of a myth. bill: one of the things you found out is how they actually survive. that is the whole story, i have been a shark biologist and, looked at seals and pieces of shark meat, and my colleague, said they have a good strategy and one is the groups they form and we say, yeah they hang out, and the group here, is a very they have selfish behavior and if i m close to my mates, rather
force men. still investigators say the bomb s materials could have been deadly if shahzhad had constructed them and detonated them properly. thankfully, he did not. bill: amen to that. a stunning 3-part series in the washington post on our nation s intelligence community, raising serious questions about the efficiency of the program. part one focused on the so-called tangled spy network with too many agencies and no hard data on costs and lock of oversight, part two was yesterday looking at the contractors tkpwroel role in the community and today s intel report talks about the anonymous business found in many towns across america. peter brooks has seen the survey, he s watched the story, seen them all, former cia officer and former deputy secretary of defense, also a senior fellow at the heritage foundation and peter, welcome back to the program. good morning, bill. bill: what did we learn? well, i m afraid some some cases we learned things we didn t really need to know. i belie