that happened, they called this one of the pilots called this a 40-foot long tachs. before this was in 1964 air force was investigating called the ufo incident. nothing new to me but the fact it s coming out is encouraging. and we might see a bit of a following with other governments and more transparency. zoo let me play some sound from a navy pilot who said he spotted one of these objects. here he was. randomly moving north, south, east west, just random, stopping, going the other direction. like you can do with helicopter, but a little bit more abrupt. looks like 40-foot long tick tak with no wings. that s the tick tach guy. we have sound with this individual. given this security clearance, what does it say to you?