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with sort of a strong sense of democrat and they don t want to be dealing with a thing they want to be on offense, not defending a policy out of the white house. arthel: let s play a little sound on the president on separating immigrant families. >if. if they feel there will e separation, they don t come. you have really bad people coming in and using children. they re not their children. they don t even know the children. they haven t known the children for 20 minutes and they grab children and they use them to come into our country. arthel: what do you make of those assertions by the president? that was the assertion they were using this summer. there certainly are cases where that happens but that is not every case. we saw the president actually reverse this summer from the first family separation policy which is not something president trump does often. we saw melania and ivanka trump pushing back against this. it seems interesting they would be going at this again,

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