judge, has the judge now said it s my belief there s enough evidence to suggest these are kippingers? no. what happened today was the prosecutor passed that task on to the judge. but because this is a european system, the judge can talk to the defendants. what they say can t be used against them in trial but they can say to him in a private one-on-one, just like you and irhaving but without cameras and the audience is i was trying to save their lives and he can take that into account. intentions are not you know, the road to hell is paved with good intentions but intention to made. the case depends on their intent. if they intended to steal these children for whatever reason, to bring them to the u.s., that s kidnapping and they face 20 years. if they were trying to help the