john, i guess the obvious question is, why would this happen to somebody like pat? pat redding was an exception. she wasn t involved in anything, she never practiced anything. she was what we call a sole victim. purely these things happen randomly. one day she was out in the yard hanging out laundry. she claimed that something came over her that day. we never were able to find anything substantial behind that and shortly after that the haunting broke out in the home and she fell victim to pure possession. anthony hopkins spoke earlier about his film the rite. which deals with a real story. there are a huge number of people coming forward now, more than ever before, around the world wanting people to be exorci exorcised, either themselves because of they re terrify what s happening to them or
no, i didn t. i think i asked for help, which is a form of prayer. if the ego, if i say well i can do it on my own, i can conquer anything, that s nonsense. i can t conquer anything. as this guy says in the film, i m weak. i am powerless. i have no power. and i don t know anything. the priest says that s humility. and i knew a psychiatrist in london who was a priest. and i went to him to have guidance once, not therapy. and he said why did you want to become a catholic? i said, i just need a center in my life. well, think very carefully before you do that. it is a big deal. i said, what is the problem? i just feel a bit lost. he said, well, join the human race. he told me about his own loss of faith, and not being a theologian myself, what is it like? he said, it s hell. but you find your way back or you destroy yourself. when we come back after a short break, i want to talk to you about one of the other great demons of your life, hannibal lecter. okay.
been around for a long time. it s legend. do you ever drink chianti? if i drank i d end up in mexico. did you ever eat fava beans? no. i don t even know what a fava bean is. and i m not a vegetarian. i don t know what fava beans are. baked beans? apparently sales of fava beans just collapsed after that film. what did it do to you, silence of the lambs, in terms of your acting career? you had a brilliant career before and since but silence of the lambs became this stuff of legends. it was one of the greatest terrifying characters ever, wasn t it? yeah. i don t know how it happened. i was in london. i was in the theater in london, and i was bored stiff. i m not a creature of the theater. people say i am, but i wasn t at all. i couldn t fit in with anyone. i couldn t do shakespeare walking around in wrinkled tights for the rest my life, so i wanted to be back in movies. my agent agreed to silence of
o donoghue react to the horrors of life, the hell on earth. everyone lives it. and it makes you open your mind about the debate of life. the debate whether the devil is an anthropromorphic figure or whether but you believe there is a devil. we had to preface it by saying thomas, who is an exorcist, a jesuit priest. your expert on the film? yes. and checked how is my latin. and he said great. what do you think of my latin? i thought it was quite impressive, given you have now forgotten it. yeah. i said you really believe the devil exists? he said, well, yeah, i do. u that s what he does. what do you think? well, i m not a theologian. i m an inclusivist, i guess i m not an atheist. i m not an agnostic. i know you re a catholic. i believe in the god that einstein believed in. the espinosa interpretation.