crazies help giants of industries, politicians and entrepreneurs succeed. joining us now to talk about his book and hopefully not diagnose me is author of the new book the psychopath test. john ronson. pleasure to make the acquaintance by way of tv. nice to talk to you. what is your intention with this, before we get into the test? oh, gosh, well, my intention was to find out whether the conspiracy theory shed by psychologists across the world was true. that 31% of regular people as a psychopath, 4% of ceos of psychopath. psychopathy is the brain remolded capitalism all wrong. seemed like a huge thought. i wanted to try and find out whether or not it was true or not. what sort of answers did you find? well, i suppose that one of the strangest and most wonderful and interesting pats of my book