the defendants are adults, and their conduct was in private and consensual, and, quote, to declare the issue as one related to the right to engage in certain sexual conduct demeans the claim the individual put forward. so could it happen? could it happen next year? that the supreme court declare it is unconstitutional to deny people of the same sex the right to marry? what a question, what a story. joining me now is the president of the human rights campaign, chad griffin, and gay rights advocate elizabeth birch. i think i know what the majority opinion should look like. your thoughts. i couldn t have said it better, chris. it really is an incredible day today, that the supreme court is taking the prop 8 case, the perry case, as well as the doma case. and, you know, look, when this case was filed almost four years ago, the prop 8 case, we made the case in court that in this country we don t deny our citizens a fundamental right,
and there is no state interest to deny our citizens and the plaintiffs in this case the fundamental right to marriage. you know, chris, often times we get lost a bit when we re talking about these things, talking about the politics and the law, but at the end of the day there are fundamental lives at stake. when we filed this case, chris and sandy and jeff and paul had been together for ten years. now they have been together for almost 12, over 13 years. chris and sandy s twin boys were just entering high school. when this case is heard, they will be getting ready to graduate from high school. their moms deserve the same freedom to marry just as everyone else has in this country. and in this country we don t deny a certain portion of our citizens a fundamental right. we just don t. it s not american. isn t it true that when we had this in the court in the ninth in the appellate level, nobody came forward because nobody could come up with what you call a justification, some compelling
is that the trophy they want in order to do what is right to raise the rates for the wealthiest people in our country? let me say for the record i think pelosi is right. i don t think raising the age is the right idea. i m going to show you the money later on. but what she did not do is not rule it out. if republicans end up getting it, it s something the obama administration told john boehner they were willing to trade away if republicans end up getting it, that will feel like a big win for them. enough to unlock the tax deal. i m not saying the final negotiation here will be easy. one thing that s a tough sticking point in negotiations. we began tonight which the white house wants to get rid of forever. there s not been a lot of republican movement on the forever deal. i m not saying the final negotiation here will be easy. one thing that s a tough sticking point in negotiations. we began tonight which the white house wants to get rid of forever. there s not been a lot of republica
order to do what is right to raise the rates for the wealthiest people in our country? let me say for the record i think pelosi is right. i don t think raising the age is the right idea. i m going to show you the money later on. but what she did not do is not rule it out. if republicans end up getting it, it s something the obama administration told john boehner they were willing to trade away if republicans end up getting it, that will feel like a big win for them. enough to unlock the tax deal. i m not saying the final negotiation here will be easy. one thing that s a tough sticking point in negotiations. we began tonight which the white house wants to get rid of forever. there s not been a lot of republican movement on the forever deal. i m not saying they are not going to get to a deal before the deadline, but don t be fooled by the posturing. there is a sailboat.
do the loving vs. virginia move. right now, it would be washing out 41 states. so very quickly before we go, today is a good day for supporters of gay marriage. that s the bottom line? i think it s a great day. i think it s a great day because in the perry case, there s no question it s a great in respect to doma. for the perry case, it s a great day even though there might be skeptics because in that case there s a beautiful record, there s a trial in this case. whenever there s a trial, the pro-gay side wins. it s almost a per se rule. in red states like arkansas and florida, the gay rights activists have won and blue states without a trial, we have lost. so because there was a trial and a 3,000-page record, the perry case is a sleeper winner e. interesting. thank you so much for being here. thank you for having me. if you are former bill clinton, you have a global