the battle ground states it s not going over very well. we ll have an impeachment trial as i said repeatedly. it will become the business of the senate after the first of the year. senators will all be in their chairs including those running for president and i m sure they re really going to be happy to be there. david jolly, former republican congressman and former republican as well mara gay is a member of the editorial board. author of the book the opposite of hate. also with us this morning from washington, betsy woodward swan and agreeing store who covered the supreme court for bloomberg news. sally, let me start with you. i want to get a sense of where the battle lines are drawn at this point. i point out the two fights we re going see in the future. what does washington look like today? what is happening as a result? the state of our union is
fun fund, ben rhodes, the author of the opposite of hate. peter sagel, host of npr s wait, wait, don t tell me. ben rhodes, let many he start with you. i m going go to you first. there is a lot of talk. peter baker writing the piece about the possibility of mike pompeo to pull a henry kissinger. that lasted for a while and then things changed. what are the down sides of having somebody that as we understand it has an outside role here influencing the president when it comes to foreign policy? he outshines the defense secretary at this point. what difference would it make if he occupied both roles? it s a terrible idea in the sense that the national security adviser is probably the most important job in the government in terms of having to coordinate all the various bodies of national security including the department of state. however, it doesn t really
up with me this morning clint watts a former fbi special agent and msnbc national security analyst affiliated with the foreign policy research institute. assistant professor at harvard. chris lu, now a senior fellow at the university of virginia s miller center and sally kohn the author of the book the opposite of hate. let me start with you and the comments, what the president said, how he tried to walk them back as the week wore on and in fairness it took some time for him to do that. 24, 36 hours elapsed between when the abc news interview aired and when he called to his friends over at fox news to talk more about it. and the word maybe turned into absolutely. why did that happen? because republicans came out and checked the president. whenever the republicans actually come out and say, yes. you should call the fbi, then the president starts to panic and you see him resurface a day or two later and basically
opinion on either the right or the left. michael fuchs, adviser to secretary of state hillary clinton, joyce vance is a former u.s. attorney, now msnbc contributor. sally cohen, author of the boom the opposite of hate. joyce, i want to start with you in this conseat, that we re seeing new life breathed into these documents. you have spent your career going over them, writing them and reading them, as well. what kind of a difference does this make to the case being laid out? it makes a difference to the public because prosecutors conduct their investigations in private. as we know, robert mueller has been particularly good about keeping any sort of leak whatsoever from happening. indictments are filed or when someone pleased guilty. but with cohen for the first time, we got this broad glimpse
in washington. let s talk about it now. sally cohen is the author of the opposite of hate, a feel guide to repairing our humanity. dy scare you when i said your name? i m just excited to be here. it s late but we re here. keith boykin and alice stewart and rick wilson. they re excited to be here, too. they re here late every night. i know i m not. it s okay. welcome to the party, sally. thank you. don t worry i had caffeine. happy new year everyone. keith. happy new year, don. you brought in the most freshman class in history, the largest class of women ever. should president trump s policies and rhetoric get some of the credit for these historic changes? not at all. i ll give him a little bit of credit. the reality is barack obama, hillary clinton, other candidates along the way have encouraged people of it color, women, did i verse candidates to run for office. and then people in the grassroots have been interested in running for office.