Stephen Sackur is in Nice to speak to former Russian oligarch and billionaire businessman Sergei Pugachev. What does his extraordinary story tell us of Putin s.
putin was a relatively unknown person in moscow, he was from st petersburg, he was from a poor family, he d been a middle ranking agent in the kgb. is not the truth that you and the other billionaires, the oligarchs, you thought you thought you could control putin in the kremlin? no, no, no. and what happened was that. no, no, no, no, no, absolutely not. no, no, no.
putin was a relatively unknown person in moscow, he was from st petersburg, he was from a poor family, he d been a middle ranking agent in the kgb. is not the truth that you and the other billionaires, the oligarchs, you thought you thought you could control putin in the kremlin? no, no, no. and what happened was that. no, no, no, no, no, absolutely not. no, no, no.
point. he s been stumbling his way through this effort in ukraine. the draft has obviously hit a nerve. even if we don t see clear signs of it yet, which of the power brokers in russia do you believe are most likely to motivate something even if it falls short of getting you know, taking putin out of office? you any, it s such an appealing scenario the sort of filmscript version and we get a new start i new leader and so on. it s interesting president volodymyr zelenskyy where i am in kyiv said yesterday in the wake of his speech that no negotiations with moscow are possible and that ukraine would wait until there s a new russian president. i mean, the problem is that that could be quite a long time. and actually the people who might remove him, you know, the oligarchs, for example, or the
it s impossible. it s absurd.it it s a crazy idea, but i it s nt as crazy as thinking men can get pregnant. so if you t wanhinkint to laa you want to laugh at the ideadet of like two presidents diametrically opposeo d coming together, trump calling him ifci obama doesn t call himng back , that s not a good sign. if they call and they go , look, you know, maybe we can talk, know i could talk to putin, you could talk to zelenskyy. we do. that sn to zele if you just this crazy, then you re what ideasu a do youve.et abo so, yeah. forget whautt i said about your birth certificate. [l your bii ll apologize for spg on your campaign. we ll fly toau europi wille. do it. exactly. but you hate every single copin buddy film. cu they always win at the end game. even when they hate each other. lethal weapon. 48 hours. no way. they re right in the same car though. you re takin g. my point is , the point is nobody is talking about a negotiation. nobody s talking about off ramps. and i think tha