becoeiog more proactive, whether it s even being part of the regulation process with the private sector or developing things that we can actually start saying, this is what we need to do to have a better society? the marshall plan was a better leadership project. as a citizen, i have to agree, as a historian, i point out, like i do in the land of promise, my book, it takes a while in order to finally overcome the oppression of interests. you would have thought the great depression would have been enough to dislodge some of those interests, but it seems to not be the case. i guess the only reason i think i m optimistic relative to what you re saying is because the tools we have never existed ever, ever, ever.