conservative counter protesters. the standoff in madison riveting the nation, especially because the outcome could have a huge impact for states and unions across our country. caroline shively is joining us live from washington and caroline, you ve been taking a closer look at the facts and figures of employee labor unions and how it could affect us not just in wisconsin. reporter: you re right. the fight isn t just happening in wisconsin, jamie, collective bargaining is widespread in almost every state between government and public workers and right now they re limiting it for some public employees debated in tennessee, indiana, ohio and nevada and dozens of others may follow suit. and pension reform for a mandatory pension payment for workers as well. protests broke out in columbus, ohio thousands of union members inside. and outside a counter protest. looking at the union s budget
i understand why they came down as a box of bricks when i said social justice, that s a code word. now do you get it? there they are. this is not about the international worker. this is global worker. the international worker. members of the afl-cio. let me ask you something. is this the one issue where you are saying boy, i really hope my union is doing all they can to spend their valuable time and resources in egypt and help organize over in egypt. well, let me show you. because he uses the code language, but the people in australia, the labor union represented in australia here, on this same tape is more clear. watch. our message is one with the people of egypt. we know that there is a new world ord they re is necessary in many, many countries. but you re leading the way.
i understand why they came down as a box of bricks when i said social justice, that s a code word. now do you get it? there they are. this is not about the international worker. this is global worker. the international worker. members of the afl-cio. let me ask you something. is this the one issue where you are saying boy, i really hope my union is doing all they can to spend their valuable time and resources in egypt and help organize over in egypt. well, let me show you. because he uses the code language, but the people in australia, the labor union represented in australia here, on this same tape is more clear. watch. our message is one with the people of egypt. we know that there is a new world ord they re is necessary in many, many countries. but you re leading the way.
i think it s better than richard trumpka, the teamster guy, whatever he is. the labor union boss had, you know, in that role. i believe that s the panel, too, by the way. i think this is probably net, net good. it can t be bad. but i m waiting for the weenie roast where all the ceo s show up and hold hands with the president and sit cross legged in front of the white house and they re like roasting marshmallows. if the proof is in the future whether this adds up to jobs. the editorial in the wall street journal from the president talking about we need to go back to regulation, this is some alternate universe we re living in. if he follows up on what he says, great. but, you know, my only question and i was raising it with charles, it is weird that he keeps his full-time job. and does this on the side. i know as mr. gasparino pointed
contract workers, some of whom are professors, from caltech, professors at caltech are members of a labor union, the labor union, collective bargaining agreement says the backgrounds can t be investigated without their consent or the union s consent. it s a good case for the courts to take. jenna: it s very complicated. it s interesting, when we tackle these security threats now, but this is the comment from dennis byrne, some of the men that are part of this case and this is what he had to said, he wrote a piece in the times, he said neither i nor any of the 34r-6s have anything to hide, i care nothing for my personal privacy, i care for the terrible damage being done to the guarantees of our constitution, i fear that carried to its natural end this process with its false promise of national security at the expense of freedom will forever damage our country. the question, judge, is it our right right now, protecting the people that threaten our system? the job that does he and the j