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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20211219 01:15:00

the other big revelation this week, which is the 36-page power point preparation that was circulating up on capitol hill and you know the most chilling part of that is the idea that trump can declare a national security emergency. again, there has to be a pre text. it could have been street fighting. it could have been the two pipe bombs that didn t explode at the dnc orb rnc. we don t know what would have happened if there had been some kind of pre text that the white house could have blamed on the left how they would have responded or how the national guard would have responded. kyle, you wrote a piece i thought was interesting and relates to some of the revelations this week, which have been quite a few, mostly thanks to the meadows document about what this committee, the jan 6th committee learned from impeachment. the hearings in contrast will be free of the on the screen bickering, delay tactics that marked the 2019 hearing. there is a real unity of purpose here to this committ

Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20211218 01:43:00

you don t have to do it. they suggest it for a period of time. but this is voluntary. here s the bad part, when you do testing to that extent, you re going to find more people, you re going to find more cases. so i said to my people, slow the testing down, please. develop immunity over a period of time, and i hear we re close to 15%, i m hearing that, and that is terrific. that s a very powerful vaccine in itself. today the committee released a report on its findings and we re learning more about how much of the chaos can be traced directly back to the trump administration s handling of the virus, including evidence of the administration s, quote, deliberate efforts to undermine the nation s coronavirus response for political purposes, which included efforts to reduce the amount of testing and championed a dangerous herd immunity strategy among other failures. the democrat of illinois and a member of that subcommittee, investigating the federal response to the coronavirus pandemic and

Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20211218 01:15:00

right, and, you have to go back to remember the other big revelation this week, which is the 36-page power point presentation that was circulating up on capitol hill and, you know, the most chilling part of that is the idea that trump could declare a national security emergency and, again, there has to be a pretext. it could have been it could have been street fighting. it could have been the two pipe bombs that didn t explode at the dnc or the rnc, but, you know, we don t know what would have happened if there had been some kind of pre-text that the white house could have blamed on the left how they would have responded, or how the national guard would have responded. kyle, you wrote a piece that i thought was really interesting and relates to the revelations we had this week which had been quite a few, mostly thanks to the meadows documents, about what this committee, the jan 6th committee learned from impeachment. the hearings in contrast will be free of the on screen bicker

Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20211218 01:16:00

delay tactics that marked the 2019 hearings. there s a unity of purpose here to this committee. it s bipartisan, but people are united in what they re trying to achieve. it s been impressive in terms of what they ve been able to get done. it s true, and i say in the piece that, you know, one of the maybe the most weighty decision of all that could influence the outcome here is the fact he was angry that speaker pelosi vetoed two of his picks to sit on the committee so he pulled everybody out and it turns out that may be the best thing that happened to them. now, they are all driving in the same direction, almost never happens in a congressional investigation. no fights over who to subpoena. they re all on the same page, essentially the same mission. and they re not trying to build a counternarrative, build in opposition and we don t see this. this is a rare case study in what happens in congressional committees, they re all united to get to the same place, which they almost never

Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20211218 01:55:00

pick fewer priorities then fund them for a decade, which would effectively make them permanent and we re now in a situation where everyone wants to tear their hair out. listen to senator bernie sanders, one of the architects of that original bill and the chair of the committee described his frustration on this show yesterday. you got two people saying you know what, if you don t do it my way, i don t care what the president wants, i don t care what 48 of my colleagues want, it s my way or the highway and that, i regard as arrogance. you can disagree, i have disagreements as you well know. you fight for your ideas but you don t say my way or the highway and that i feel very strongly about. okay. but here s an interesting take. weirdly enough, what manchin now appears to be advocating here actually lines up with a growing critique i ve been seeing emerging from progressive observers of legislation worried that the current version, with

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