january 6th hearing reveals that trump knew he lost but tried to steal the election anyway while cheating his maga supporters out of their hard-earned money. plus, some are calling the gun reform framework a good first step. that suggests more is coming. color me skeptical. we ll talk about all that have and more with karine jeanpierre in her first live primetime interview since she made history, become the new white house press secretary. but we begin with day two of public hearings by the house january 6th committee today showing how donald trump deliberately launched the big lie to convince his own voters that he won an election he lost using claims of nonexistent fraud and then seeking to corrupt the justice department, his own campaign team, his donors and our court system in an effort to cling to power. if you think he cooked up that plan after the election as a hail mary simply because he couldn t accept defeat understand that donald trump went into the election alread
that was also found to be a crime. that s what this was all about, that donald trump profited from the big lie. that everything we saw to listening to drunk giuliani to ignoring all of his advisers and ignoring his attorney general was all about grifting, keeping the grist going forward, and, you know, it s mind-numbing to me, joy, that even now all this time removed from the election, there are still republicans who are bending over backwards to try to get this guy support, following his lead, keeping him at the top of the republican party despite all the things we need. for any republican that is still following this guy, you re following drunk rudy at this time. let s not leave out bill barr and i ll going to you on this, jill. bill barr is doing a laundry deal. he told trumpet truth and he did an ap interview when he said
office. keep in mind that the seeds of doubt in the election were sown effort before stop the steal. 6 the of donald trump s posts in 2020 were about the election stolen and almost all of those were before election. cat carding doubt often they were billing the foe daungs will and whether you re identifying a target like donald trump did in this. what you create is our knew needback in the only once you sort of build the muscle memory and for people who tame number, there were sill of 46 separate organizations and ent
covid lockdowns the greatest intrusion on civil american lib sis and promoted the theory of the deep state. i could go on but we don t have the time, jill winebanks. what do you make of the idea that he now becomes the number one witness so far as used by the committee against his former boss, donald trump? i m very happy that he s telling the truth now. i think he towed to the country to tell the truth when it mattered. there s something that could be done that will prevent trump were running for office again. he failed and he didn t do his diet as a public servant. he was obligated to do that so better late than never, i guess, but it s and, again, it would have been even more powerful if he had testified in person. i would hike to see more live testimony because i know from
lie. he knew the truth, and he can t use his lack of knowledge as a defense this case. the jury, if there were a criminal case, would be instructed that willful ignorance of the facts is not a defense, and especially when the only person or persons who whether giving him the information that it was okay that he hnlt lost was an inebriated rudy giuliani and kraken lawyer sidney powell whereas everybody else from his campaign, his attorney general, all of those surrounding women who had a reason to be vision him, who were actual employees, all said you lost and there is no fraud. so it s not a defense, and that s very important what they did today you know, kurt, you know, listen, donald trump was not listened to the people who whether were tip lipping on the ripple allegedly because he no choice and he was desperate. he was doing this because he