spoke with one voice. it started at woodstock to a sen extent. half a million people and three days with very little violence. and i think that s, i think the spirit and the hope of the times was what i remember from the sixties. we talks about the british invasion, you were a member of the hollys. but with the hollys, it s so interesting, listen to the music, it s poppy, sing songy, harmonies, by the end, especially the songs you were writing, very socially conscious. that was my, that was david and steven and neil young and mitchell s influence on me as a song writer. in the hollys by the time i left, we had 15 top ten hits, but they were like make love to me in the back of the car kind of songs. when i met david and steven and david had written about the assassination of robert kennedy and steven written for what its worth for the riots in los angeles. i began to realize there was more important stuff to say.