it s 90% good. it s 90% tasty. it s 90% pure. there s only 10% poisons and toxins in it, but drink it anyway. reporter: the group has been at the center of some of the biggest fights on capitol hill. it looks like we could be in for a very long term shutdown at this point. reporter: with consistently making the task of governing more challenging. i don t want us to become a factionalized majority. i want us to become a unified majority. reporter: to the frustration of past house republican speakers. i share frustration. about 90% of our conference is for this bill to repeal and replace obamacare and about 10% are not. reporter: the freedom caucus was involved in former house speaker john boehner s ouster in 2015. on any given day in my case there were two or three dozen what i call knuckleheads who wanted chaos. they wanted it all their way or no way. reporter: he stepped down amid difficulty managing the faction. the people on the fringes have a bigger platform to
being told by our own republican leadership. it s 90% good. it s 90% tasty. there s only 10% poisons and toxins in it but drink it anyway. reporter: the group has been at the center of some of the biggest fights on capitol hill. at this point it looks like we could be in for a long-term shutdown. reporter: making the task of governing more challenging. i don t want us to become a faction allized majority. i share frustration. about 90% of our conference is for this bill to repeal and replace obamacare and about 10% are not. reporter: the freedom caucus was involved in former house speaker john boehner s ouster in 2015. in my case on any given day there were two or three dozen what i call knuckleheads who wanted chaos. they wanted it all their way or no way. reporter: he stepped down
what we re trying to achieve. ite not the end of the world we take a few extra days or weeks to sort it out. there are some days in congress where the only thing we vote on is the changing of the name of one post office. we re deciding who s second in line to the presidency. and the construct of the rules concessions functionally term the speakership to a ceremonial position. if my colleagues get what they want from mccarthy, the freedom caucus will be more important, amendments were process and why spending is going forward. laura:: i get the you know on the establishment issues, i m totally with you. okay? i m about the art of the possible. what s possible here? so, you did get a number of concessions that i m not sure if i m on the other side i would have given you. but a number of concessions from mccarthy in an attempt to get to 218. he lowered the threshold of the votes required to get to the
the republican party is not a monolith. it has establishment types, it has populous, and some moderates. there are three scenarios, basically, that are possible now, one, the freedom caucus basically take mccarthy s concessions as a win, and enough of them support him for speaker. number two, mccarthy could withdraw and allow another candidate for speaker to be proposed, one who presumably could get 218 votes. you heard a number of people s names mentioned, steve scalese is one. others could emerge as well. a third scenario. moderate and establishment republicans could strike a deal with democrats whereby mccarthy or another republican actually gets to be called speaker, but essentially both parties share power on the committees. now, the third possibility, a lot of people say it s farfetched, never going to happen.
caucus in your flanks that are planning to fight you for a lot of things and we don t even know all the concessions that were made. in my opinion, nothing will be good enough for this chaos caucus. talking about john boehner, when he rosendale mentioned earmarks. john boehner banned earmarks and he still was wanted out by the freedom caucus. i do not think they will be pleased by anything because they don t know how to govern. they simply want to have someone to blame and campaign off that. matt gaetz is already doing it, campaigning off the swamp. asking for positions is very swampy. i m not too convinced it can be done solely by republicans. again, the speaker s role is speaker of the whole house. i m hopeful but not just within the republican party. david? well, yeah, one thing, maura,