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Transcripts for MSNBC Katy Tur Reports 20240604 19:28:00

so i do think that that is important. and you do look at it through the lens of even if it s not a downgrade in this moment, the threat of one or the fact that maybe the u.s. is not trustable in paying the bills for the money that it s already spent is notable, does have consequences, and will factor into how future debt deals are done up here on the hill. i will say two things that i heard yesterday evening as people were leaving was, a, there is some unhappiness with the fact that democrats at the end of last year didn t actually just deal with the debt problem then when it wasn t divided government. that s something that i heard some griping about. and then there s the reality of they don t want to have to do this stuff in the future. the next time we re going to do a debt ceiling battle is in early 2025. but there s no agreement on how to just like there s no agreement in just getting rid of the debt ceiling in the u.s., despite the fact we are one of the few countries that has o

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