our david mckenzie joins us live from zimbabwe. what can you tell us? john and poppy, it certainly is a tense situation here in the capital of zimbabwe. we were out on the streets. there are troops moving through the capital and also holding key strategic points. they ve taken over the state broadcaster in a dramatic early morning statement. they got on national tv here and said this is not a coup, but, in fact, everything that we re seeing is that this is a de facto coup, takeover of power. the 93-year-old president robert mugabe, who s ruled this country longer than most people have been alive here, is holed up in his residence, we believe, under detention. this is all part of a factional b basil in the ruling party. the u.s. embassy is closed today. they re asking for american citizens here to shelter in place. a very tense time and a lot of questions still remain unanswered. john, poppy?
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there was actual efforts on the part of the campaign to collude with russian agents. and i didn t ask you that. i just asked you, does it bother you? does it matter? should it happen? i guess it bothers me in the sense that it s questions that we have to pursue, that we want to understand. it doesn t bother me in the sense that if i think it s going to lead to the impeachment of the president that s a pretty high bar. you keep saying not everything leads to an impeachment of a president. in fact, it s only happened twice in our president. that s a pretty high bar you re sitting right there to be of concern. well, with you knyou know wh something that i hear all the time, though. in the last few days, we ve seen examples of democrats calling for his impeachment. and not just one or two. i read an article just yesterday by some of my democratic colleagues saying that was their goal. but we re not ask about that. we didn t ask that. all we re asking about is having a con
just disagree on that. i ve asked people that i meet, that i genuinely don t remember in the course of our campaign in our work, we meet literally thousands of people. and i don t think mr., you know, the individual he was talking about was a terribly important figure in the campaign. i couldn t really understand why he might not remember that conversation. why is it not to come back to the don jr. correspondence with wikileaks, why is it in your opinion, congressman, not terribly meaningful if don jr., the fact that don jr. was having these correspondence with wikileaks. and then 15 minutes after wikileaks asked him, would you do something? would you put out our reporting, our information, stolen information, right, based on stolen information from the united states, that the president, then candidate trump, tweeted what they wanted. 15 minutes later. why is that not meaningful? well, once again, i just don t think that taken in its totality, it leads to criminal behavior. it le
duty that donald trump was not aware of the fact that the russians were serving up hacked and stolen e-mails and that donald trump was doing his best to take advantage of it. he referred to the podesta e-mails, the wikileaks hacks 164 times in the closing weeks of the campaign, cheering on russia s interference in the election while all the while denying it. what about the idea that these were low level people and you had this kind of one of the most charitable interpretations of people who aren t advocates of donald trump, this campaign at this point, particular lly in march, was a mess. they were pulling people off the shelf to serve as foreign policy advisers. how much do you buy that? i m not going to say that george papadopoulos was the campaign chairman but it certainly seems like he may have been in contact with or at least his information was being passed to the campaign chairman, paul manafort. that s an important fact. moreover, everything about the papadopoulos story i