security protocols that are in place. while i ve gotha you, richard, d you heard me maybe speak with gordon chang about this as well as victor ascha, the issue of human rights, and i wanted to get back to that interview that you had done with again that north korean that had escaped, right? that was in the d dmz. and what you learned about human rights from that interview and that story. reporter: actually, i didn t do thatr: interview. that was keir simmons. it was a different correspondent for nbc. but i m familiar with the story. and actually yesterday i interviewed another north korean defector. this was the one i interviewed yesterday was the most senior northth korean politician to ha crossed over in decades. he was an ambassador to the united kingdom. and i sat down with him at length and i asked him, what do you anticipate from this meeting, what do you think are the costs and benefits from it? he does not believe, or did not
live pictures. the video coming in and going it may get a little sketchy or pixelated. you can see it right now freezing. we re going to stay n on it for this visit, the first visit from president trump and the historic meeting if it does happen, we expect itdo to happen with kim jong un. sometime in the next half hour or so. here are pictures of the president just moments ago at the prdmz. moone jae-in the leader of sou korea standing right next to him. how important is it for presidents to visit the dmz? it s extremely important for them to visit the dmz. as richard said every previous president has doneha it. president trump when he came to korea i think it was in 2017 actually did not have a plan to go visit thetu dmz. he was going to visit camp humphries which is a large u.s. military installation south of
heading right into the dmz. that is not a usual occurrence. so we re seeing quite a bit of not all chinooks. appear to bel blackhawks as we. so as you can see, in preparation of the president s arrival more military equipment isva being set in there. it appears to be either part of an advance team or at this late hour probably more like a close protection team. the e dmz, although it is a demilitarized zone, is still it can be a very tense area. just abouten a year ago in late 2017 a north korean soldier who was stationed on the north koreanhe side decided to take t opportunity ande defect and he ran across the border area, the
so some of the pool notes are delayed because the cell signal isn t that strong. and what you see, the broadcast coming across, just to get in the technology of it, that requires a lot of cell service. so the pixelates, that s because the service isn t that great right now. hard to tell from what s going on there where the president is in this picture if we see him yet. obviously there s security as well. richard? hans, give us a sense of the overlook point here. i m not sure if there s more than one. i ve only been to one of them, and of course there may be more than one. i m an ware of at the moment. just to kind of give us a sense of what we re seeing. do you have any idea i know you re ado little bit farther ay from the dmz. reporter: i don t. and richard may be here comes the president. reporter: okay. there we see the t.president. and it looks like he s going up to an observation post. let s see u if we can listen. let s go to richard engel real fast here, hance,
doesn t have a lot of interest in the united states increasing any of its influence on the korean peninsula. north korea doesn t as well. and the net result of that as victor said earlier was that what we re going to see today is a photo opportunity and it s hard to see how it s going to result in anything positive. if what we re looking for is north korea to give up any of its nuclear capability. hans nichols. thank you so much, colonel. hans nichols still with us. hans, one of the points, if we can pull two together here, not only what was made by the colonel but also by victor and richard engel, is this divided house. there at panmunjom, there at the jsa, at the dmz, these houses, these buildings where it is but there s a