counsel. and it s time now for our sunday group. gop strategist karl rove, former democratic congresswoman jane harman, julie pace, washington bureau chief for the associated press and author of the deep congressman jason chaffetz. well, julie, paul manafort has long ties to pro-russian ukrainians, he was one of the people who attended that trump tower meeting in june 20616. 2016. how significant, potentially, is his decision to cooperate with the special come, and how concerned are they in the white house by manafort s decision? i think there are a lot of unknowns here still. we don t know the extent of what paul manafort is going to be telling bob mueller. paul manafort be, but it s that unknown that s unnerving the white house. despite what the president and