the prosecutors the government and say, january. 2nd is the trial date. that s 13 days before the iowa caucuses, you have a series of trials and legal precedent. legal positionings that you have to get to and then you have a documents case potentially in july, right before the republican national convention in milwaukee that same stage that will do the debate on next week that we have never seen anything like this. this is so elderly surreal, and yet it is what we re facing. and yet each indictment sean as you note. uh the former president s poll numbers have gone up. i want to say this caveat in that charges are very serious. you and i are not our first rodeo. we ve been through a number of presidential campaigns and we ve been through a number of them together. um you know to me this defies all conventional wisdom, doesn t it? the idea that an indictment leads to
unindicted co conspirators. what you re watching on your screen is the cover of that page of the indictment if we can put that up on the screen that would be great here. now, with more we go back to law professor and fox news contributor jonathan turley. jonathan i m looking at that. if you look at the document that made it to the media talking about 10 specific indictments, how do you read it? using your background as the great law professor, you are. ah well, when you re talking about 10 of diamonds, it has that classic profile of racketeering case that s where willis really gained her fame as a local prosecutor, you often will have large numbers of people linked in a conspiracy to make out that case, you have to establish a pattern. just a relatively few crimes are may predicate crime list. that is a list of crimes
iceberg in terms of, you know. in the case of trump russia collusion as an example and now you re with the government accountability institute. um in terms of that case, as doran pointed out, and even michael horowitz had a lot of criticism and a lot of referrals that were not followed up on. but the idea that operation crossfire hurricane never should have been brought against donald trump. and it was three years of never ending media lies and conspiracy theories that they peddled. and now dorm, saying it s never should have been brought up as a case. there wasn t one single thing in the dossier that became, according to andrew mccabe, without the dossier. no fisa warrant approved by advisor court the basis of 45 warrants, three of them signed by the fbi director. and now here we are again and it seems like this just is not stopped from the moment this man came down that escalator with his wife, melania. and my wrong and my perception here. no. i mean, the washington post ran an
drug cartels is a real problem here in des moines, iowa, as you can imagine, especially with the meth and fentanyl and so you know, i would look at those cases and work with the u. s a. is on those on trying to make rico cases but to the earlier panelist pointed that jonathan turley point those cases are tough because there s predicate offenses. you have to show a pattern and you have to show the organization these i mean, these are criminal groups, and i just don t think this case rises to that level. i think this is a very aggressive application of that . and really, it s a pattern that you know i mentioned earlier when we were talking. it s just it sees these prosecutors that are are solely trying to get out and get trump and try to hang in there not only indictment but you know, they hope a conviction and it s just that most of these cases just don t have the legal structure and the legal precedent to support them. and they re going to collapse. you know, after they get past these
emails and meetings that create a fair case in about 15 minutes . they had nothing on me. they had no meetings they had no, no. no activities of my capitol hill. no emails, but they but they had a motivation and just like you ve seen it with in fulton county today, uh, you know, the motivation is part of a grand conspiracy to derail donald trump because he is an existential threat. to the left and what their goals are and listening to some of the panelists tonight, you know, you know the blue states where they re bringing these cases. i had a jury pool in in in what? washington d c. it s we re getting ready to go to church trial that i got the judge to agree to let me do a questionnaire, which, frankly, we created like we would have bowl. to ask pool of 200 jurors a series of questions that would allow us to analyze whether they could be fair or not to me and to the jury s credit. your potential jurors credit about 100 and 50 of them