at the same time, welcomes and celebrates the legal immigrants, the essence of the conservative message should be we want a dynamic nation where anybody with nothing can achieve anything. bret: that was a speech well received. back with the panel. charles, your thoughts on all of this? well, the sentiments i think are noble. and they re correct. the problem is how do you translate it to policy? that is where i think the republicans really been hurt. they, you know, they, obama got over 70% of the hispanic vote. the hispanics should be natural consistency. any immigrant should be natural part of the con seventive party and it s not. the reason is the attitude to immigrant is a threshold issue. if a people has a sense the party doesn t like you, they won t listen to anything else. so that is the challenge.
bret: can republicans get there? i think the first rule of thumb for the party, republican party should be do no harm. i agree a lot of it is language. the republican party should be doing more to celebrate legal immigrants as president bush was doing. bret: marco rubio talks about that all the time. marco rubio talks about that. when it comes to, you know, illegal imgrants, the 12 million people here, it s important to remember that california with 55 delegates to electoral votes. sorry. actually used to be a red state. until there was an anti-immigrant backlash which led to prop 187, which banned illegal immigrants from health and education. that was ultimately overturned. from then on, that was a democratic state. i think that proposals like self-deportation, which hit home to families here even if you are here legally. the idea that your friends or
family might have to go home, wait in line, and maybe never come back, that hits home. i think that is viewed as a hostile act. you have to get past that. personally, i would like to go to the day of john mccain in 2007 and look for a pathway to citizenship. if that is too far for the party, then look at the things like to new kay bailey hutchison legislation, which would make a pathway for young immigrants. bret: tucker? actually, california voted for clinton before pete wilson got involved in the debate over whether illegal immigrants ought to have welfare benefits. democrat is a democratic state because it s state of immigrants for the reasons that charles mentioned. what is missing is not all immigrants are the same. many latin american countries send us immigrants that go on welfare. but does the united states need new numbers of the low skilled immigrants in a post
know republicans are calling latino republicans are calling for outreach with obama s overwhelming victory among hispanic voters. the republicans need to remain a party that supports securing the border and stopping illegal immigration. at the same time welcome and celebrate legal immigrants. they are looking to the party like cruz or rubio in florida to champion can cause and win over the valuable part of the electorate. bret? bret: casey stegall in dallas. do you think republicans can win the hispanic vote? let me know on twitter. the supreme court says the government is on the hook for damage it causes to land it does not own. shannon bream has more on a big decision. good evening. under the fifthfield the u.s. constitution the federal government can t take your property without providing
three, two one. take a look at the lighting of a capitol christmas tree an hour ago. 73-foot spruce. decorated with 5,000 ornaments. that s the spot where the inauguration will take place next month. beautiful. republicans trying to come up with a party s game plan when it comes to hispanics got star power to help today. former president george w. bush said the immigrants are key to economic recovery. we have the story from dallas. democrats increase growth. they are our friends if we want future job. 43rd president of the united states. the former president bush was helping spread at a conference today in dallas. bret: immigrants come with new skills and new ideas.