same criminal liability as the lawyer who is sitting there with the client actually saying these things to the client? oh, absolutely. i mean, this is so just let me just ask yeah. let me just ask you for a second. let s pause for a second and consider how high that ladder could go. let s just for the moment assume that mark meadows who knows about the cassidy hutchinson testimony has said to this lawyer, you really have to, you know, get her on the team. make sure she protects us and all that. what if then donald trump had said to mark meadows, you need to make sure that cassidy hutchinson is protecting us? yeah, so, look, this is exactly how criminal investigations work, which is you go from the foot soldier ideally and you ideally charge them, flip them and move up the ladder as far as the facts and the law will allow you to go. if whoever gave the ultimate, you know, instruction of this is
characterization that this is the best house report ever written and i ll stand up for our impeachment report, it is, you know, it will be really important to dig into a lot of the end notes as andrew said, many of which, you know, are further explanation for some of the testimony and the last thing that i was just looking at is further to the cassidy hutchinson obstruction of justice that we ve been talking about, what other efforts were there to obstruct justice? what other efforts were there to stonewall the investigation? the committee notes that 30 witnesses took the fifth or refused to testify for some other reason, and obviously that s everybody s right to assert the fifth amendment, but they also note that there were a number of frivolous claims of executive privilege or absolute immunity that is just very hard
the testimony of the star witness to that committee. today the january 6th committee released the transcript of the most important testimony, the committee received from the committee s most important witness. 26-year-old cassidy hutchinson. the committee has found not a shred of evidence to in any way reduce what appears to the solid credibility of the committee s star witness cassidy hutchinson. and we learned in her full testimony released today that the first lawyer who represented her in dealings with the committee will face disbarment proceedings in washington, d.c. and will face prosecution for suborning perjury if cassidy hutchinson s testimony is
sort of is no turning back. but cassidy hutchinson found herself completely unable to pay for a lawyer. she asked family members for financial help. her mother was surprised that cassidy hutchinson wasn t happy about using a free lawyer from trump world. cassidy hutchinson explained the problem to her mother. page 32. i was like, no, i am completely indebted to these people and i was like, and they will ruin my life, mom. if i do anything that they don t want me to do. now, to page 33 and i read this passage of deeply personal testimony only to make clear the level of desperation cassidy hutchinson reached that made turning to a free lawyer from trump world, made her do that. quote, i don t have a relationship with my biological father, but i went to his house one night, i drove up to new jersey and i went to his house one night and begged him, it s
miss hutchinson would very much like to speak with him since his testimony in the nixon matter actually was an inspiration to her. they requested alexander butterfield s contact information. alexander butterfield then met with cassidy hutchinson over zoom. alexander butterfield told us today, quote, she asked me how my life changed after i testified. i remember telling her how she came through so wonderfully, so beautifully in her testimony. everybody had to be proud of her and it was clear how she spoke that she was truthful. i am sure when alexander butterfield testified 49 years ago he wasn t thinking, maybe someday there would be a 26-year-old assistant to the white house chief of staff who will find inspiration in that testimony, that choice, alexander butterfield s choice