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again, they are coming in by the co s. i can recall an incident in which a guy was stabbed with a kitchen butcher knife that didn t come from the kitchen of the prison but it came from the kitchen of someone else s house. john, is kershaun, excuse me. john, it seems to make sense when you have this big of a system, this many people working, everybody is looking for ways to make a little extra money and there are always bad apples in any organization. absolutely. i m not denying that a percentage of the contraband and weapons that come in are coming in by correction officers. i m not denying that at all. he has to be realistic also, a lot of cell phones, dope, tobacco, it comes from family members and close friends and associates of the inmates that s coming in to visit. they hide the stuff in body cavities and they do i mean, like religion all the time.
no, no. it needs to be understood that the people who i ran with in the gang were the people who i flew kites with, the people who i rode skateboards with, the people i played football with. these are the people that i eventually went to jail with. so, this was your life and it just carried over. and a lot of the friends that you hung out with ended up in prison with you? yes. yes. pretty much. give me your take on what you ve heard tonight, because i m feeling from you a little bit that this is a little one-sided, that this is a show about how bad the prisoners are, but there is another side from the prisoner s point of view. look, the prisoners are getting the cell phones in. they re not coming through the mail. they re not coming in through the visitor s center. that s coming from the co s. a lot of the drugs coming in, tobacco products coming in again, they are coming in by the co s.