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Transcripts for CNN New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar 20240604 10:17:00

the argument within gop leadership is she shouldn t have had a leadership post and been talking about it. she clearly feels very deeply not just about what happened on that day but what the party s direction under former president trump going forward could look like. i do think that that scene is a reminder that there were a lot of people who had plenty of reasons to question things president trump, then president trump, was saying as they were happening. and it took that moment, it took january 6th when you had his supporters hanging literally from balconies at the capitol building to say, oh, this is a problem. so i mean, liz cheney has been very outspoken since. she was not very outspoken before that and there were plenty of things that he were saying that was problematic and important to bear both of those things in mind. there s jim jordan, too. because what she says there i think has some relevance which is that there are a group of people who were involved, who

Transcripts for CNN New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar 20240604 12:01:00

good morning to our viewers here in the united states and all around the world. it is thursday, july 15th and we begin with the explosive revelations about how close american democracy came to the edge. jaw-d jaw-dropping excerpts about the aftermath of the 2020 election. these are from the upcoming book i alone can fix it by two pulitzer prize winning reporters. they feared then president trump would attempt a coup after the election and planned ways to stop him from doing it. this is the first time in mod earn u.s. history where there was a potential showdown dpen between the commander in chief and his military. general mark milley and the other joint chiefs plotted mass resignations, one by one, rather than carry out orders from trump that they considered to be illegal, something of a reverse saturday night massacre. according to the book, general m

Transcripts for CNN New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar 20240604 10:00:00

election . these excerpts obtained by cnn are from this upcoming book i alone can fix it by two washington post reporters, among the revelations america s top generals feared that then president trump would attempt a coup after the election and they planned ways to stop him. this was the first time in modern u.s. history that there was a potential showdown between the commander in chief and the military. general mark milliand the other joints chief plotted mass resignations one by one rather than carry out orders by trump they considered to be illegal, something of a reverse saturday night massacre. according to book, the general viewed trump as an authoritarian leader and as for the big lie, he told his aides it was, quote, the gospel of the furor. he grilled mark meadows about whether trump would fire chris

Transcripts for CNN New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar 20240604 12:09:00

conspiracies, they are continuing to propagate those conspiracies. and that is what is so dangerous, and they are doing it because they think that that is what is going to get them back into the majority in 2022, both in the house and in the senate. and so it is very, very much a current political crisis because we re not talking about two ideologies being fought out about taxes or about budgets or social issues. we re talking about truth and lies, full stop. i want to ask dana something, and then, carl, have you weigh in on this. i wonder, dana, you speak on the trump allies. and i wonder if they and trump supporters will look at this and say, oh, it s an example of the deep state, and it went all the way up to the president s top military adviser, or as is milley inoculated from that? he s not inoculated from that. you know how we know that? he testified pretty recently on capitol hill, and he went at it

Transcripts for CNN New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar 20240604 10:05:00

trump wanted throughout the summer which was to use the insurrection act in some form against deploying active military on the streets of the u.s. to try to tamp down protests. they were all three of them very concerned about this. so this went on for a very long time. and then one by one you had esper and barr disappear. esper got fired, barr could not take it anymore and resigned. and i think had told associates that trump seemed different and acted as if he had nothing to lose. the backdrop for that was that plus the fact there was this meeting i reported on in realtime on december 18th in the oval office where former lieutenant general flynn and former national security flynn was presenting this notion to the president in the oval office about possibly using the apparatus of government to rerun an election. so milley had reasons to be afraid and suddenly after milley was alone. i think it s not just the context of january 6th and the retrospective, there were a lot

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