taxes than i do, maybe in the history of the world. juxtapose that with the sound you just heard. donald trump biographer joins me now. his books include the truth about trump. michael, that s classic trump, right? just make it up as you go along. well, it sure is classic trump. and, you know, i think the irs knows whether you re supposed to pay taxes on tuition paid for your grandchildren by your employer, and i think the answer is, yes. you know, the stuff that these guys did from keeping two sets of books to, you know, these exoritant fringe benefits that they call fringe benefits but are really half the pay that allen weisselberg received on an annual basis, it s all so obvious. what strikes me about all of this is how unsophisticated it
over and over again before we even got to these hearings. i can t imagine the hearings working against them. can you imagine any scenario where republicans are forced by the fact patterns, by public opinion, to call down there and say we ve got to censor you, we ve got to do something. i think more evidence has to come out that s damning. we have talked a lot about how trump has gotten control of the gop and that fox is essentially his prop gandists. what s common to all of that is they all live in this reality of this distortion field. that s classic trump. you deny facts. you deny what s right in front of your face. you end up with these absurdities of lindsey graham saying i am not even going to read the transcript, i don t care about the fact, but i am going going to damn the whole process all along. i think that that s the institutional danger in all of this and the long-term damage trump can cause is delegitimizing facts and institution and process in the service of his own s
citizens, dually elected to serve. he claims they hate america. and he goes onto play politics. and try to smear democrats. i think they re bad for the country. i think they are bad for the democrat party. you see that. and they re pulling the democrats way left. this would be almost funny. if it weren t so outrageous. we ll tell you why. stick with us here. the president unbelievably claiming there is no racial tension in this country. i don t think. no racial tension. there s no racial tension. okay. he made that utterly outrageous claim after tweeting an attack calling the squad a racist group of troublemakers. and not very smart. by the way he tweeted that on the way to pay his respects to the late supreme court justice. that insult about not being very smart, that s classic trump. let s not forget the president s long history of calling people
i think they are bad for the democrat party. you see that. and they re pulling the democrats way left. this would be almost funny. if it weren t so outrageous. we ll tell you why. stick with us here. the president unbelievably claiming there is no racial tension in this country. i don t think. no racial tension. there s no racial tension. okay. he made that utterly outrageous claim after tweeting an attack calling the squad a racist group of troublemakers. and not very smart. by the way he tweeted that on the way to pay his respects to the late supreme court justice. that insult about not being very smart, that s classic trump. let s not forget the president s long history of calling people of color stupid. not smart.
okay. do you want to do that a little differently then? yeah, we ll just change the angle. yep. thank you. so at some point so at some point, i look forward to, frankly i d like to have people see my financial statement. there s so much in that moment. did anything there surprise you or is this just trump, the tv producer, upset he s being interrupted mid sound bite? well, one thing that did surprise me was that the president was so dismissive of mick mulvaney. you know, if someone had done that to me, i don t care if he is the president or my boss and done it in public and it got out over the news media, i would be very upset. i might even think about resigning. because that was the kind of thing you would never expect someone to do to a person who is serving them as chief of staff. so that was a surprise. the rest of it, where he s