so, well, again, so very powerful in court. that s what we re seeing. reporter: the information thing on the appeal jon and dr. bad even is to remember that when an appeals court looks at the conviction and evidence that came in they are going to say, well would a jury could not have found her guilt taoerbgs but for thaguilty, but nor thatevidencet come in, but for the morphed evidence, i think the prosecution could make an excellent case that fo forensics a part of this. as jon said the icing on the case. the strongest evidence is casey anthony herself and her reactions and actions to all of this. jon: to they have to put her on the stand, lis in your opinion, the defense. reporter: they don t have to, they don t have to do anything, they don t have to say a word. i think, yes, from a strategic point of view, she has no criminal record so there is nothing like that to not put her on the stand. she has to take the stand and make a case for herself.