class than they let us out that day if we wanted. and this guy was a hero. he was a hero in the war and in the 60s and every bit as good as we thought he was and that s the profound discovery of jack kennedy, elusive hero. chris, we all remember where we were on that day in 1963. i was an elementary student in boston. and it is a moment none of us will forget and a moment we will never get over. the book is called jack kennedy, elusive hero chris matthews thank you very much. thank you, lawrence o donnell. still ahead the kardashians and the british royal family love extravagant weddings and now the british royal family is changing the rules about who they can marry. the kardashians, of course, have no rules. that ses in the rewrite.
impact nationwide on an all fragile recovery. a default and the ripple effect i think would be impactful and representing our consumers, we think that that would be very, very difficult for the american economy to withstand at this point in time in our history. that s here at home. then there are global worries. concerns that a default or even a close call here could rattle international markets and international economies like that domino effect back after the big wall street meltdown a few years ago. the united states is the largest economy in the world, one that matters, one that has spillover effects, not just around the borders, but on a complete basis, globally. so, the stakes, they re obvious. the path to the solution, however, not nearly as clear. is it today, is it tomorrow, is it friday? magic things can happen here in congress in a very short period of time under the right circumstances. now, by right circumstances we assume leader reid means conver
position and the implications of the pledge is clear if taxes rose automatically then no politicians would have voted for higher taxes and no elected official would have broken his or her pledge that s different than supporting a plan by democrats that would end some or all of these lower tax rates. i still don t get it. explain it to me. i think the nuance, the washington nuance is there is the difference between letting the bush tax cuts expire on their own versus having a formal vote that would probably include not just the bush tax cuts plus additional taxes. that ses a close as i can get to understanding exactly where grover was trying to get back to. i think you know, when you look at the whole thing in total, i think he started off in the right position making the argument if there is no vote, then you have not actually participated in the repeal of the bush tax cuts or more importantly raise taxes from the
tax increases. then he went on to write my position and the implications of the pledge is clear if there were no vote in congress and taxes rose automatically then no politicians would have voted for higher taxes and no elected official would have broken his or her pledge that s different than supporting a plan by democrats that would end some or all of these lower tax rates. i still don t get it. explain it to me. i think the nuance, the washington nuance is there is the difference between letting the bush tax cuts expire on their own versus having a formal vote that would probably include not just the bush tax cuts plus additional taxes. that ses a close as i can get to understanding exactly where grover was trying to get back to. i think you know, when you look at the whole thing in total, i think he started off in the right position making the argument if there is no vote, then you have not actually participated in the repeal of
personally 31 years of hard service in the fire service. bill: i understand that. one more thing. apologize for interrupting you. we re trying to keep understand, the difference between folks like new ohio and what s happening with the teachers in wisconsin. they re willing to give more for health benefits which you said you would and they re willing to give to the pension, which they had not until i guess if the law passes they will now, but the stick o clock point is collective bargaining. is that where you draw the line, too, or not? that ses that s where we draw the line. we need the ability to sit down and work out our differences. we need that ability so we don t create labor unrest. it works best when everyone is on the same page. that s what our collective bargaining law has done. bill: my best to you, mark horton represents the firefighters there in ohio. thank you bill. bill: we ll see whether or not it goes to the senate today. thank you very much. thank you very