look at the train here that has been loaded up with people who are on their way to budapest. the train is supposed to leave at 10:05 eastern, in about 25 minutes. we are watching people come out and fill that train up. i m joined once again by the former ambassador to ukraine, marie yovanovitch, ambassador, thanks for waiting, colonel alexander vindman was on the show earlier this week. he said there s essentially a direct line between what happened on that july 2019 phone call between donald trump and president volodymyr zelenskyy, and what we re seeing now. he believed donald trump weakened zelenskyy by withholding a white house meeting, and military aid, at the exact time when he needed the most. two and a half years later, how damaging was that whole incident, in which you also became involved to the standing and potential success of president zelenskyy in ukraine right now?
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