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do it without penalizing us on the basis of our race. rachel: that s so interesting. so the asian-americans who are bringing this lawsuit, tell me if i m correct, are not saying we want everybody to be judged on their merit alone, they re saying we want special status in the same way that blacks and hispanics are? well, it depends. they re actually saying we don t think race should be a factor in, you know, what the court has said is it s not to be narrowly tailored, holistic. you can t have a quota saying, okay, 5% of our 15% of our class is this, 10% that. you can t do that. asian-american students are is saying stop using race because we re actually not benefiting from it, we re actually being hurt because you re using race. so they say just do it on merit and let it, let the chips fall where hay may. pete: han non, there s one othee other interesting aspects.

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