that dominated what you ar talking about in congress. but there were a lot of othe things happening along the way as well. how would you summarize this congress well, i will never forget january six myself i was there in the capital as saw the rioters come in read to attack and to sto congressman from certifying th results. it s been a difficult tw years. i never thought we would com that close to an insurrectio of our rule of law, of the peaceful transition of power but with the january six repor showed is that this is the president who orchestrated every element of it. he knew he lost the election but he pressured state officials to find the votes. he had a scheme to use fak electors to replace juli pointed once he tried to get the vice
justice department administration, where the real brainpower on this panel was that is with liz cheney. is that comedy gonn translate to the next congress is that working together establish public republica infrastructure, moving forward into the next congress there s a lot of question abou kevin mccarthy and whether h can hubble to gather the right coalition. as we see, even for the 1. trillion dollar on the bus there were nine republicans wh crossed the aisle to support liz cheney is one of them. are we gonna see more that working together in smalle groups as we saw in th committee specifically richard, i think the shor answer is no if you look at the nin republicans are crossed over t vote with the democrats, seven of them are not returning in the new congress you have kevin mccarthy no only whipping people against
certainly this insurrectio would not have occurred ha donald trump not fomented it but trump exploited weaknesses in the system, and i think i is important to note that it did expose weaknesses in how americans receive their news and understand the truth, ca they be hoodwinked by a ma such as this we ve seen the courts stand up very strongly. we ve seen members of congress not stand up very strongly for their own prerogatives two republicans on th committee, liz cheney, comin out as biden said in the transcripts, as being very important voice and bringing together both sides to mov forward. in terms of testimonie themselves, if it weren t fo her, not that we did see this, what we really got some detail about what liz cheney had done your reflection on her
the base of the republican party. until somebody can take that base away from him, it doesn t matter what mitch mcconnell or any other republican says. we re also looking forwar because of what happened i congress, of what it means for the 118th. you not have a opportunity t talk about that two hours ago. there is certainly two sides o that coin, one of which is reflecting on from the ap, she it was an article said congres was born of chaos they had it that may hav rattled to them and brough them together so they coul accomplished a lot of little things and some vaping s along the way. do you agree with that i do think, as john mae pointed out about nancy pelosi this is been incredibl effective two years, tha congress having to do multiple things, for legislate an engage in oversight. going into the next two years,
party to a conspiracy. is there hard evidence of it? that is a harder thing to hear in court. i think what was most striking overall in this hearing was that the gop tactic of disrupting it it was pretty successful. if you re not a member of congress and you have to watch all of that testimony it was hard to follow the through line and lots of questions were dropped. was he there in dwun or not. you do need to be an expert like we do every single day, so what is the big take away here david? most importantly we have a witness from the inside that told us a group of things that are consistent with other facts we know. roger stone and donald trump